I have been thoroughly impressed by all the articles ESC has put up. So to the point and concise i have made it my prime link when i discuss these matters with others. The only danger is that the label 'conspiracy theorist' will be put on it, despite the undeniable ( checkable) truth.
It is uncomfortable reading for 'normies' simply because everyone in the West has grown up on it and consider China/ Russia as dictatorial ie the 'fascist right'.
So the trick might be to offer them an insight into the mechanisms of neo liberalism. The Left has big issues with it so that might be the gateway. The financial crisis of 2008 did not result in structural changes. There is common ground there amongst centrists.
perhaps it will, but that's what the thorough sourcing is for. if people refuse to accept simply on account of the name, then they're probably not really ready to wake up just yet.
they key document here is virtually impossible to drum up. it's also bernstein and wolf's own words, which make it so valuable.
The Left has historically been the traitor of the people it is supposed to be fighting for. It is nothing but a construct of the ruling class, who need workers, not sovereign human beings. The Left is the gateway to more wage slavery, war, and "progress".
There are several strands of Left. The actual working class labourers and then you have the intellectual class. It has always been an uneasy cohabitation.
The working class has traditionally been against overreaching central power. I remember my own parents who were suspicious of the ECC and NATO ( and even Unions!). They questioned immigration as they felt it a device of the Right to bring in low cost labour.
The intellectual, educated class doesnt need the labourers anymore. So they moved with Europe into more immigration and are pro NATO, in contrast to roughly anyone on the Left from the 50s through to the 80s. And connected themselves w the Greens. Hi Tony!
The 'labourers' stayed where they were but are now considered on the Right, apparently susceptible to fascists by the 'intellectual' class, hence the danger framing.
They never look in the mirror. The concept of self reflection is alien to them..
Having spent my life in a dual world, mostly working nights as a tool maker setting multi-spindle bar carrier lathes, and days as an inventor and critical thinker, I can attest that the great mistake was to always assume intellectual education was always going to improve the minds of anyone who came into contact with such; while at the same moment believing that anyone not so educated, had little or no brain, and was as such; of little consequence in any related debate.
What is now slowly being recognised, certainly at my level, so called intellectual education, by rote, ( learn what we teach and never argue against it), has created an ignorance of immense proportions among intellectualism, that refuses to accept any other external information.
A VERY good example was to recently learn that here in the UK our prime scientific institution; The Royal Society, has, for many decades, binned, yes effectively burned, EVERYTHING they received from all external input that was not from a recognised intellectual. "We get thousands of page every year" I was told when I went there to ask if my letter to the then President, deliberately delivered by hand, asking to be permitted to demonstrate new thinking; this time regarding Newton's third law, had been accepted? So I then started to describe what I was going to demonstrate, and the librarian shouted out in a very loud voice; "I AM NOT A SCIENTIST".
For what it is worth, we are going to have to completely replace such institutions; lock stock and barrel, as the likes of the royal society have become classic monasteries, teaching scientific nonsense, where every book in their library was created by themselves, while refusing any outside input to their thinking. Today, things are much worse than when the likes of Marx was alive.
I agree. Because before you are allowed to think you need to sign up to the 'terms and conditions' or what i call the 'narrow band horizon' of intellectual discussion.
Marx lived in a time of turmoil in which various widely varied ideas could come to the fore.
This could not be stopped by the establishment. But the internet is such a threat to them now that they feel the need to heavily enforce the parameters of thought.
The really big problem today is that what one might describe as the ordinary people have lost respect for the establishment, who turned back to the ancient forms of control, such as deploying a Secret Police Service, where stability required applying; "Kill the messenger".
We are in very difficult times, with no sign of a recognition of the need to change direction.
"Around the same time, Hess described human history as driven by two forces: egoism and love — ‘the disintegrating one, egoism, and the cementing force which binds one human being to the other, love’."
Hess, like the Rotshchilds, was likely mentored by Talmudic Rabbis and this formula given here is classic Kabbalism, also used by Freemasons with their Solve et Coagula. They thrive on division and re-synthesis, always under their controlling hidden hand.
These ideas represent a pseudo-intelligence that is in fact neither truly intelligent nor human.
Au contraire, it was the neccesity ( insane greed, eschatology and misanthropy stemming from 1000 years of Abrahamic theocracy) that bred the disaster. Capitalism has always been Crisis Capitalism and the greatest crime against humanity as seen in the two "world wars" and the civil wars and other carnage that followed via NATO and CIA
The continued role of Rothschild & Co as an exclusive advisor on multi-billion dollar deals is a clear signal of something important:
In a market full of uncertainty, trusted advisory still wins.
While markets fluctuate and valuations shift, the biggest transactions are still being guided by firms with:
deep relationships
long-term credibility
and the ability to navigate complex global dynamics
This isn’t just about one deal. it reflects a broader reality:
When stakes are highest, capital doesn’t chase noise. it follows experience.
At a time when many financial players are under pressure, the ability of firms like Rothschild & Co to stay at the center of major global transactions shows that advisory power hasn’t diminished. it’s become more critical.
Because in volatile markets, execution matters more than ever.
The 'story' traced out —of ideas that become systemic as an expression of the human consciousness which runs split as egoism masking as love — gives a working example and not The causal mechanism.
The rational or mechanistic mind seeks structures of identity and enforcement against perceived, believed and predicted or projected risk framed by the very structures of assumption and belief that are accepted, operate and run as substitutes for love —again—as framed by structure.
The framing of love in and by fear of pain of loss runs a fasl and enforce 'love' —that is —in the name of care, protection and security, sacrifice is dictated and exacted to save the system of love's usurp.
Rationalised systems of order are not in themselves evil - if they are recognised as nothing more, and used as tools as serves the living or maintains support for living.
This is the split allegiance of the mind or society to Caesar and God, where Caesar signifies worldy power set in organisation and oversight of human needs and services, and God is the living alignment in unfolding fulfilment. To worship or deify the means of control for getting a personal or private gain at cost of or by sacrifice of the living—is the reversal of a mind and world where “Everything is BACKWARDS; everything is upside down! Doctors destroy health, Lawyers destroy justice, Universities destroy knowledge, Governments destroy freedom, Major media destroys information, And religions destroy spirituality". (Michael Ellner).
Good intentions pave the way to hell by operating as virtue signalling. Insights are harnessed to egoism as a face of knowledge and authority that calls to a like mind in others to 'see' personal self interest as a masking agenda by which self-separatism claims to act of align in virtue framed as progressive, the common good, but always framed by and against evils, threats and fears from which the separate ones are 'saved' from as conditional mitigating identity that must now be maintained against social guilting exclusions set by terms and conditions for maintaining the masking social order (egoism) as a systemic substitution of control via rules and filters set into structural requirements of living
Ivan Illich saw systems of enforced caring as the inevitable 'Anti-Christ' of a secular 'Christianity' framed by egoism —because that is what egoism does as a function, and what used to be called 'the world'.
Just as we can make storylines that sketch social-political developments, so we can sketch underlying cultural beliefs as a progressive loss of Soul-awareness to a worldly control layer set over an environment framed as separate, other, dead or merely material to be used. Within such a 'worldview' other lives are framed in like kind as mechanism to manipulate for a gain of function that runs substitution for love as it signature characteristic.
When enough people are stuck at the same place, they call it 'reality'.
This is the 'closed system' of depleting resource neccesitating that life IS war - by any and all means, and that underlies the masking of war in deceits that pose as virtue framed in or on claims of victimhood or unhealed grievance -kept from healing - else defences would weaken and fail to the 'treachery' of love that is seen as fickle or deceitful - because it is not under or within the realm of definitions for predictive control.
That love is the power of alignment of shared outcomes is the field of communication brought to relational honesty. Weaponsed forms of communication will not stand as valid and so must be protected from real communication or truth.
What is a weaponised form of communication but a mask of an appearance or form of communication seeking to pass off as real? Egoism is of self doubting division, such as to over-mask the conflict with a personal and social camouflage.
The social masking order runs as a collective defence for rules set over relational conflicts that by which they are scaped or 'solved' by masking diversion from being truly addressed -whereby they can be truly released, undone or healed. In this sense 'the world' knows you NOT - and will kill you if it finds you - for it is set against healing by allegiance to a 'world' of solutions backed by alignment in self-justifying narrative-complex of rational obfuscations.
The worship of intellection as a priest-class of special knowledge set as the control layer for human experience by social, political and economic organisation, hearkens back to ancient terrors that are mythologically and symbolically recorded - as the archetypal patterning of a split consciousness. Self-conscious reflection in image is a human mind running within or upon 'Mind' that cannot Be objected, defined or separated from -save in concept.
What we 'make' of existence - as our ruled and filtered meanings, makes us in the measure we give or rather in the measure we agree to frame giving and receiving as valid.
Nothing we make is real - in the sense of true Creation. yet nor can it be totally without a love that is our true creation. Love is not IN a world of lies given power to run in the mind of a split allegiance —except that we give or extend it to our world as the recognition of a true blessing in place of terms and conditions for conditional mitigation of fear of pain of loss.
The attempt to mimic love in forms and behaviours does not align fulfilment, but compounds lack and driven dependency as a normalised or internalised operating system.
Co-intel 'inside' runs in your name, as your own thinking, as if in your interest. Egoism is not gain of function but pain of fiction set on false claim of function.
However, the one who call it into service and keeps it as guide and protector is the freedom to release it from such a role, and see though new eyes.
Indeed they/we lie to ourselves as part of an adaptive survival within a world of fear, threat and penalty—that are aligned with and used as a means to 'incentivise', manipulate or force outcomes. The seeming moral outrage masks a hatred that seeks its primary target outside the 'self', But hatred is an expression of lost, denied, deprived or betrayed love. It is not a self-existing evil power of attack set over life made weak, frail and in dire need of armouring defences.
The work of revealing a progressive system capture in the world needs recognise we are hosting its operating system for the most part unwitting. But if this merely triggers blame and targeting - you are not yet ready or willing to look within. The ego can not look within for its function is to fixate to the focus on the world - that then 'justifies' or supports a sense of 'interiority' set in and by projected judgements that are thereby invisible.
We have freedom and desire to be-live our story as a gift of an experience of 'self-will' —a co-fusion of love in egoism. "I Want It Thus!" is easily recognisable as the ego's dictum - but we usually experience that in terms of our dis-appointment or pain in life.
Unselfconscious joy in being is 'nothing special'. It is being no more and no less than yourself as a flow of unconflicted experience. Love what you do requires knowing what you do. Sleepwalking through a life set on subconscious habits finds comfort by self-evasions that don't simply fail, but rob us of sharing in true fulfilment. But opening to love may be the greatest fear, because that is where pain and terror arose that we swore 'never again'.
Thus a limited and conditional or special 'love' is invoked to save a split off dissociation from re-living experience of denial, abandonment, rejection, attack, betrayal and isolation, exclusion and death. Yet this is the signature pattern that reiterates 'through the generations'.
The 'god role' is what we draw identity from and maintain a self by. Power of protection as Backstory to a self-projection. The lie and the father of the lie run as circular self-reinforcement but lacking true substance -egoism.
"sectors prone to monopoly should become public corporations"
easy to say, but just throws the challenge back to how to manage public monopolies 😂
yet my overall impression is one of rigid rulemaking, of the same sort that is strangling the EU today
systemic embryogenesis does NOT work by formal negotiation and "clearing"; rather, it works by chaotic recombination and ad hoc embryogenesis
No grandchild's world turns out the way their grandparents advised, and no grandparent's attempt to negotiate a perceived outcome for the grandkids survives the handover.
That's perhaps the key reason that human programmed lifespans are what they are.
No other way has been found to surf the unpredictability of thermodynamic progression.
I now see EU/UK "governance culture" as the fusion of Judeo-Christian religion with Germanic Philosophy, which are both hopelessly doomed attempts to update "rules" as the pace of FutureShock accelerates. It's way too anthropomorphic.
And, it's all a vain attempt to preserve too much control over the pace of change, and it is counter-productive in the end.
My prediction? Religion and governance will both revert to recombinant physiology in order to keep up with the discovered pace of "what works." (DAOome syncytia, not Central Planning by any other name.)
Prior systems cannot predict the Scalable "Truth" of thermodynamic growth, but with relentless practice they can surf the probability functions.
Recombination works. We must always shoot some, but never too many, of the Juliets & Romeos. Live with it.
I have been thoroughly impressed by all the articles ESC has put up. So to the point and concise i have made it my prime link when i discuss these matters with others. The only danger is that the label 'conspiracy theorist' will be put on it, despite the undeniable ( checkable) truth.
It is uncomfortable reading for 'normies' simply because everyone in the West has grown up on it and consider China/ Russia as dictatorial ie the 'fascist right'.
So the trick might be to offer them an insight into the mechanisms of neo liberalism. The Left has big issues with it so that might be the gateway. The financial crisis of 2008 did not result in structural changes. There is common ground there amongst centrists.
perhaps it will, but that's what the thorough sourcing is for. if people refuse to accept simply on account of the name, then they're probably not really ready to wake up just yet.
they key document here is virtually impossible to drum up. it's also bernstein and wolf's own words, which make it so valuable.
The Left has historically been the traitor of the people it is supposed to be fighting for. It is nothing but a construct of the ruling class, who need workers, not sovereign human beings. The Left is the gateway to more wage slavery, war, and "progress".
There are several strands of Left. The actual working class labourers and then you have the intellectual class. It has always been an uneasy cohabitation.
The working class has traditionally been against overreaching central power. I remember my own parents who were suspicious of the ECC and NATO ( and even Unions!). They questioned immigration as they felt it a device of the Right to bring in low cost labour.
The intellectual, educated class doesnt need the labourers anymore. So they moved with Europe into more immigration and are pro NATO, in contrast to roughly anyone on the Left from the 50s through to the 80s. And connected themselves w the Greens. Hi Tony!
The 'labourers' stayed where they were but are now considered on the Right, apparently susceptible to fascists by the 'intellectual' class, hence the danger framing.
They never look in the mirror. The concept of self reflection is alien to them..
Having spent my life in a dual world, mostly working nights as a tool maker setting multi-spindle bar carrier lathes, and days as an inventor and critical thinker, I can attest that the great mistake was to always assume intellectual education was always going to improve the minds of anyone who came into contact with such; while at the same moment believing that anyone not so educated, had little or no brain, and was as such; of little consequence in any related debate.
What is now slowly being recognised, certainly at my level, so called intellectual education, by rote, ( learn what we teach and never argue against it), has created an ignorance of immense proportions among intellectualism, that refuses to accept any other external information.
A VERY good example was to recently learn that here in the UK our prime scientific institution; The Royal Society, has, for many decades, binned, yes effectively burned, EVERYTHING they received from all external input that was not from a recognised intellectual. "We get thousands of page every year" I was told when I went there to ask if my letter to the then President, deliberately delivered by hand, asking to be permitted to demonstrate new thinking; this time regarding Newton's third law, had been accepted? So I then started to describe what I was going to demonstrate, and the librarian shouted out in a very loud voice; "I AM NOT A SCIENTIST".
For what it is worth, we are going to have to completely replace such institutions; lock stock and barrel, as the likes of the royal society have become classic monasteries, teaching scientific nonsense, where every book in their library was created by themselves, while refusing any outside input to their thinking. Today, things are much worse than when the likes of Marx was alive.
I agree. Because before you are allowed to think you need to sign up to the 'terms and conditions' or what i call the 'narrow band horizon' of intellectual discussion.
Marx lived in a time of turmoil in which various widely varied ideas could come to the fore.
This could not be stopped by the establishment. But the internet is such a threat to them now that they feel the need to heavily enforce the parameters of thought.
And people can no longer ignore that.
The really big problem today is that what one might describe as the ordinary people have lost respect for the establishment, who turned back to the ancient forms of control, such as deploying a Secret Police Service, where stability required applying; "Kill the messenger".
We are in very difficult times, with no sign of a recognition of the need to change direction.
Happy International Worker's Day comrade. Capitalist profit, socialised loss... And always the Ashkenazi 'saving the world'.
The "saving the world" (or world savings...) can is approaching such a size as to make it unkickable...
"Around the same time, Hess described human history as driven by two forces: egoism and love — ‘the disintegrating one, egoism, and the cementing force which binds one human being to the other, love’."
Hess, like the Rotshchilds, was likely mentored by Talmudic Rabbis and this formula given here is classic Kabbalism, also used by Freemasons with their Solve et Coagula. They thrive on division and re-synthesis, always under their controlling hidden hand.
These ideas represent a pseudo-intelligence that is in fact neither truly intelligent nor human.
Another excellent posting!!
Come out of her, my people.
Au contraire, it was the neccesity ( insane greed, eschatology and misanthropy stemming from 1000 years of Abrahamic theocracy) that bred the disaster. Capitalism has always been Crisis Capitalism and the greatest crime against humanity as seen in the two "world wars" and the civil wars and other carnage that followed via NATO and CIA
Every, single, time… again.
The continued role of Rothschild & Co as an exclusive advisor on multi-billion dollar deals is a clear signal of something important:
In a market full of uncertainty, trusted advisory still wins.
While markets fluctuate and valuations shift, the biggest transactions are still being guided by firms with:
deep relationships
long-term credibility
and the ability to navigate complex global dynamics
This isn’t just about one deal. it reflects a broader reality:
When stakes are highest, capital doesn’t chase noise. it follows experience.
At a time when many financial players are under pressure, the ability of firms like Rothschild & Co to stay at the center of major global transactions shows that advisory power hasn’t diminished. it’s become more critical.
Because in volatile markets, execution matters more than ever.
oh you cut and pasted your reply. so will i.
is this some sort of inclusion which ensures search engines link to your comment as opposed to the essay itself?
The 'story' traced out —of ideas that become systemic as an expression of the human consciousness which runs split as egoism masking as love — gives a working example and not The causal mechanism.
The rational or mechanistic mind seeks structures of identity and enforcement against perceived, believed and predicted or projected risk framed by the very structures of assumption and belief that are accepted, operate and run as substitutes for love —again—as framed by structure.
The framing of love in and by fear of pain of loss runs a fasl and enforce 'love' —that is —in the name of care, protection and security, sacrifice is dictated and exacted to save the system of love's usurp.
Rationalised systems of order are not in themselves evil - if they are recognised as nothing more, and used as tools as serves the living or maintains support for living.
This is the split allegiance of the mind or society to Caesar and God, where Caesar signifies worldy power set in organisation and oversight of human needs and services, and God is the living alignment in unfolding fulfilment. To worship or deify the means of control for getting a personal or private gain at cost of or by sacrifice of the living—is the reversal of a mind and world where “Everything is BACKWARDS; everything is upside down! Doctors destroy health, Lawyers destroy justice, Universities destroy knowledge, Governments destroy freedom, Major media destroys information, And religions destroy spirituality". (Michael Ellner).
Good intentions pave the way to hell by operating as virtue signalling. Insights are harnessed to egoism as a face of knowledge and authority that calls to a like mind in others to 'see' personal self interest as a masking agenda by which self-separatism claims to act of align in virtue framed as progressive, the common good, but always framed by and against evils, threats and fears from which the separate ones are 'saved' from as conditional mitigating identity that must now be maintained against social guilting exclusions set by terms and conditions for maintaining the masking social order (egoism) as a systemic substitution of control via rules and filters set into structural requirements of living
Ivan Illich saw systems of enforced caring as the inevitable 'Anti-Christ' of a secular 'Christianity' framed by egoism —because that is what egoism does as a function, and what used to be called 'the world'.
Just as we can make storylines that sketch social-political developments, so we can sketch underlying cultural beliefs as a progressive loss of Soul-awareness to a worldly control layer set over an environment framed as separate, other, dead or merely material to be used. Within such a 'worldview' other lives are framed in like kind as mechanism to manipulate for a gain of function that runs substitution for love as it signature characteristic.
When enough people are stuck at the same place, they call it 'reality'.
This is the 'closed system' of depleting resource neccesitating that life IS war - by any and all means, and that underlies the masking of war in deceits that pose as virtue framed in or on claims of victimhood or unhealed grievance -kept from healing - else defences would weaken and fail to the 'treachery' of love that is seen as fickle or deceitful - because it is not under or within the realm of definitions for predictive control.
That love is the power of alignment of shared outcomes is the field of communication brought to relational honesty. Weaponsed forms of communication will not stand as valid and so must be protected from real communication or truth.
What is a weaponised form of communication but a mask of an appearance or form of communication seeking to pass off as real? Egoism is of self doubting division, such as to over-mask the conflict with a personal and social camouflage.
The social masking order runs as a collective defence for rules set over relational conflicts that by which they are scaped or 'solved' by masking diversion from being truly addressed -whereby they can be truly released, undone or healed. In this sense 'the world' knows you NOT - and will kill you if it finds you - for it is set against healing by allegiance to a 'world' of solutions backed by alignment in self-justifying narrative-complex of rational obfuscations.
The worship of intellection as a priest-class of special knowledge set as the control layer for human experience by social, political and economic organisation, hearkens back to ancient terrors that are mythologically and symbolically recorded - as the archetypal patterning of a split consciousness. Self-conscious reflection in image is a human mind running within or upon 'Mind' that cannot Be objected, defined or separated from -save in concept.
What we 'make' of existence - as our ruled and filtered meanings, makes us in the measure we give or rather in the measure we agree to frame giving and receiving as valid.
Nothing we make is real - in the sense of true Creation. yet nor can it be totally without a love that is our true creation. Love is not IN a world of lies given power to run in the mind of a split allegiance —except that we give or extend it to our world as the recognition of a true blessing in place of terms and conditions for conditional mitigation of fear of pain of loss.
The attempt to mimic love in forms and behaviours does not align fulfilment, but compounds lack and driven dependency as a normalised or internalised operating system.
Co-intel 'inside' runs in your name, as your own thinking, as if in your interest. Egoism is not gain of function but pain of fiction set on false claim of function.
However, the one who call it into service and keeps it as guide and protector is the freedom to release it from such a role, and see though new eyes.
Indeed they/we lie to ourselves as part of an adaptive survival within a world of fear, threat and penalty—that are aligned with and used as a means to 'incentivise', manipulate or force outcomes. The seeming moral outrage masks a hatred that seeks its primary target outside the 'self', But hatred is an expression of lost, denied, deprived or betrayed love. It is not a self-existing evil power of attack set over life made weak, frail and in dire need of armouring defences.
The work of revealing a progressive system capture in the world needs recognise we are hosting its operating system for the most part unwitting. But if this merely triggers blame and targeting - you are not yet ready or willing to look within. The ego can not look within for its function is to fixate to the focus on the world - that then 'justifies' or supports a sense of 'interiority' set in and by projected judgements that are thereby invisible.
We have freedom and desire to be-live our story as a gift of an experience of 'self-will' —a co-fusion of love in egoism. "I Want It Thus!" is easily recognisable as the ego's dictum - but we usually experience that in terms of our dis-appointment or pain in life.
Unselfconscious joy in being is 'nothing special'. It is being no more and no less than yourself as a flow of unconflicted experience. Love what you do requires knowing what you do. Sleepwalking through a life set on subconscious habits finds comfort by self-evasions that don't simply fail, but rob us of sharing in true fulfilment. But opening to love may be the greatest fear, because that is where pain and terror arose that we swore 'never again'.
Thus a limited and conditional or special 'love' is invoked to save a split off dissociation from re-living experience of denial, abandonment, rejection, attack, betrayal and isolation, exclusion and death. Yet this is the signature pattern that reiterates 'through the generations'.
The 'god role' is what we draw identity from and maintain a self by. Power of protection as Backstory to a self-projection. The lie and the father of the lie run as circular self-reinforcement but lacking true substance -egoism.
Exceptional essay. Thank you. Continued success in your good endeavors.
How economies work?
this is actually fascinating history
"sectors prone to monopoly should become public corporations"
easy to say, but just throws the challenge back to how to manage public monopolies 😂
yet my overall impression is one of rigid rulemaking, of the same sort that is strangling the EU today
systemic embryogenesis does NOT work by formal negotiation and "clearing"; rather, it works by chaotic recombination and ad hoc embryogenesis
No grandchild's world turns out the way their grandparents advised, and no grandparent's attempt to negotiate a perceived outcome for the grandkids survives the handover.
That's perhaps the key reason that human programmed lifespans are what they are.
No other way has been found to surf the unpredictability of thermodynamic progression.
I now see EU/UK "governance culture" as the fusion of Judeo-Christian religion with Germanic Philosophy, which are both hopelessly doomed attempts to update "rules" as the pace of FutureShock accelerates. It's way too anthropomorphic.
And, it's all a vain attempt to preserve too much control over the pace of change, and it is counter-productive in the end.
My prediction? Religion and governance will both revert to recombinant physiology in order to keep up with the discovered pace of "what works." (DAOome syncytia, not Central Planning by any other name.)
Prior systems cannot predict the Scalable "Truth" of thermodynamic growth, but with relentless practice they can surf the probability functions.
Recombination works. We must always shoot some, but never too many, of the Juliets & Romeos. Live with it.