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Christine Jones's avatar

‘Philosophy is being brought into the feedback loop to stabilise the system — not as a check on power, but as a programming language for normative control. The convergence described in Cybernetic Thomism is therefore not a speculative concern, but visible, published, and gaining institutional support. In effect, the cybernetic-operational worldview is being equipped with its own moral operating system — one capable of regulating both perception and policy through encoded philosophical feedback, designed to steer the individual cell in the human super-organism.’

This has been the role of court funded and academic foundation & grant funded Philosophy for several centuries. To provide the procedural operating system which would have populations managing themselves with the minimum of dissent. To mediate perception of reality. This goes back to Ockham, Descartes and down the genealogy of metaphysical inversion. Now it’s becoming algorithmic and the preceding phases/mechanisms of controlling and managing perception are no longer needed. AI and the growing embedded systems are slated to do the job. Total Control.

esc's avatar

oh yeah i dont disagree with that but with AI, the response can be deliberately crafted for maximum manipulative effect to the individual, brought up on SEL frameworks maximising exploitative potential

Christine Jones's avatar

Yes and each child having their own tailored AI ‘Teacher’/‘Learning Guide’ whatever it’s going to be called, will ensure that individual targeting.

hojo keceram's avatar

The warning is clear but is the rebellion even possible or is this just a long road to a new non nature man commanded by what he thinks he has some control over but is already a pawn in the system of his own mental demise. Some will want no part of this and will return to the fields to live a personal decision life. Like a sci-fi movie would the system even allow such a thing and track down and destroy those free thinkers as enemies of the state, I would say yes, so how about some speak on how to stop this, what I call, total madness and the creation of the transhuman, our end.

BubbaOJ's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc3zH4GKaj4 ... Of course Darwin lives in Bruno's world of bullshit too - it's the ultimate survival tool, which has nothing to do with truth. You can see the Hermetic roots in both Malthus and Erasmus Darwin too.

BubbaOJ's avatar

..."to ground cybernetics in a realist metaphysics, particularly Thomistic realism, which holds that reality has a structure and intelligibility that exist outside any system’s model."

See book 3, chapters 97-19 of Aquinas' Summa Contra Gentiles for a real Thomist realism that, unlike Laracy, accounts for the threat of deception, particularly the lie that creatures can create living creatures, as opposed to mere artifacts...

See the deceptive vitriol directed at biochemist James Tour (which tellingly misrepresents his Christian position as claiming to know all, when in fact his key claim is that we do not know enough to create life (as if mere knowledge would suffice anyway)) for an exhibition of how desperate transhumanists are to have us believe that they can create new life. Tour (quite entertainingly) mocks the transhumanist pretensions on mathematical grounds that (like all Luciferian pretensions) do indeed sound farcical...

BubbaOJ's avatar

...I forgot to finish on the difference Psuedo-Dionysius makes: like Proclus, he makes the angels mediators between human souls and divine Intellect (the Word/Son of God), whereas Augustine makes Christ the only Teacher who has direct access to all rational creatures, without mediation by any material or immaterial creature. Aquinas is widely aligned with Denys on this point, but i've seen enough bs scholarship (pointing in precisely this direction!) to know we need to check and check again for ourselves before we trust that interpretation. The dispute comes down to greater hierarchical differentiation between kinds of angels in Denys and Aquinas. But i wouldn't be at all surprised if it's actually just Proclus being projected onto both Denys and Aquinas...

BubbaOJ's avatar

Between Augustine and Thomas stands Psuedo-Dionysius, whose very similar to Proclus (whoever came first), and plenty that seems blurry in Aquinas is clear as day in Augustine. One such example is key here: the foundation of creation's access to divine truth and the mediation of our access to it... Augustine nips Heisenberg's uncertainty and the threat constructivism in the bud on the first 'day' of creation, when the angel's knowledge is completed, encompassing all events and things in time and space (see The Literal meaning of Genesis on the angel's morning and evening knowledge, corresponding to Neoplatonic procession and return). Thus human observers aren't needed as the angels have reality covered in the City of God, where they wait for us to join them. Book 12 of The Literal Meaning is also very informative, as it adopts Plotinus' epistemological distinction between corporeal, spiritual (imaginative) and intellectual 'vision'. To make Thomist realism fit an Aristotelian epistemology his rampant Neoplatonism has to be denied (and it has been). But the fact that Thomas and all medieval scholarship mistakenly attributed works by Proclus and Plotinus to Aristotle makes it obvious how illegitimate this is - the only interpretation of Aristotle that could ever be used by Abrahamic monotheists is the Neoplatonic one that has God transcending the universe and makes access to eternal ideas a precondition of all sense-perception, not vice versa. This rules out Laracy's 'Thomist' empiricism from the get-go. And another real source for that line of thinking, besides Peripateticism, is the Hermetic thesis that God perfects himself in, by and through us submerging our souls into material existence on what is effectively a reconnaissance mission to find out wtf he's doing! The same is reflected in Malthus' theology (mind immerses itself in matter to gather data for self-perfection), which informs Darwinism throughout and, interestingly, was omitted from later publications of his essay on population.

Christine Jones's avatar

This is the final phase of the destruction of Thomism. Traditional Thomism was the means to defend against Constructivism, Systems Theory, Neoplatonic derived Theosophy etc and this is always how the very means of defence against attack is itself parasitically weaponized, skinsuited from within to neutralize it and enable it to destroy itself while serving the ambition of the very Powerplay it traditionally fought and defended against.

Same old age old tactics of inversion and you have generations that naively (or expediently) don’t know, don’t care, and just see their own little opportunities for marketable methods, or career advancement and the Architects smile as they weaponize the only defence against totalitarianism to destroy itself and enslave everything in the process. All done under the auspices of benevolent terms and progress etc. This is the corruption & inversion of Thomism employed to operationalize The Networked State through the lure of decentralized networks etc. The ultimate con which so many continue to fall for because they don’t understand the many phases of Thomistic synthesis that have already happened which have severed it from Realist metaphysics. Realism in the same sentence as Systems Theory, Constructivism & Cybernetics is oxymoronic though I know that’s what the “sChOlArShIp”🐍 claims, but until people understand the weaponization tactics, they’ll keep swallowing this koolaid and worse - working to perpetuate it, with the approval of their own conscience. Traditional Thomism is metaphysically oppositional to everything Totalitarian Technocracy and AIWS ambition is rolling out. There is a centuries long tradition of Neoplatonism veiling itself in Thomistic language. This is just the latest phase as the tech has evolved to operationalize more ‘efficiently’.

BubbaOJ's avatar

... I would be a bit more specific though, since 'Neoplatonism' lets late Neoplatonic Hermeticism off the hook and leads to confusion when one sees that the Deluezian buggerers are almost as averse to Plotinus as they are to Augustine and Aquinas, because he denies the descent of Intellect that provides the runway for the elitist division of humanity that underpins theurgy. The Mason's obsession with Egypt provides a clue because it follows Iamblichus and the late Neoplatonist's turn to the Hermetic God who, unlike the God of Plotinus', creates himself in, by and through the material world and sends out a set of non-intellectual gods before Intellect, who provide the foundation for the Hermetic sanctification of the will of human elites...

BubbaOJ's avatar

Excatly - this is precisely what i've witnessed with Augustinian scholarship, lead by the 'heretical marxists' (their leader's self-description!) of 'radical orthodoxy'... The latter name sums this approach up; since 'radical' has effectively meant 'heretical' since Spinoza, it's as clear a warning as Hermes being called 'the trickster'. One of their postmodern tribe, Delueze, gave an astonishingly blunt confession of the systematic fraud that passes for scholarship in the world of magical social 'praxis' when he described his approach to interpretation as 'buggery'...: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/2mk0l7/giles_deleuze_memory_reality_tes_and_buggering/ ... All of it reminds me of Satan's whispers in the Garden...