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'Networks provide adaptability, innovation, and robustness through distribution. Hierarchies provide coordination, efficiency, and scale through organisation.'

I'm on the fence with this esc. Forest systems which had stability for aeons did not really have hierarchy in this sense. The mutual exchanges between organisms created the efficiencies and expanded scale as a result.

I still see the current predator (mediating) class/group as 'nature' or a part of nature because they see system exploits as food just like any other energy/resource harvesting unit. They are a forest fire. Consuming stored energy very quickly. Our task as I see it is to bring as many minds awareness of the situation so they can survive as seeds to resprout after the orgy of consumption.

I dunno. It's all very perplexing but I'm excited to follow your line of thought to see where you take me.

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Could you answer my question about Spiral Dynamics please, ESC? You've written about it specifically in the past and I hear some of the language repeated often in your work--this notion about 'include and transcend' for example, which seems to extend from the two organizational models you're discussing here.

I was really interested in this when I first came across it through the work of Don Beck and listened to many hours of lectures, this was many years ago. One thing I could not get an answer to, which seemed to me to be deliberately ignored, was the notion that we 'in the West' had transcended Beige. This appears very illusive to me--how have we transcended it exactly? Living 'paycheck to paycheck' has simply replaced 'living hand to mouth' of the so-called undeveloped world. Take away the paycheck and folks here still can't feed themselves, so how exactly has Beige been 'transcended' in the modern world?

What am I missing there, if you please?

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